Nerodia (water snakes)

[Ameivaboy]

I just picked up this gravid female FL banded water snake
( Nerodia fasciata pictiventris )

(not this best pix, just took a couple quick shots before dropping her in the cage, didnt want to stress her even more than shipping had already)

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h8/Ameivaboy/DSC00831.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h8/Ameivaboy/DSC00834.jpg

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h8/Ameivaboy/DSC00838.jpg


anybody else working with Neordia sp. ??
anyone with orange phase mangrove water snakes (a pair) hit me up :)

[adamanteus]

Fantastic looking snake, Kevin. I have been considering getting a few Nerodia species, but availability in the UK is erratic at best. Chloe has some though.

[Stefan-A]

They're not difficult to find here, there's one fairly near here that has been breeding them these last couple of years. Didn't buy any, since they were a mix of two different subspecies. At least, that's what the breeder said last year. To be honest, I'm losing interest in Nerodia.

But that's a fine snake nevertheless. :) What is the typical Nerodia like, compared to garters? Apart from spending much more time in the water bowl?

[Ameivaboy]

yea, i dont really like when people mix subspecies, and frankly I wouldnt buy them either, water snakes arent terribly hard to find here but decent specimens that arent all torn up are!! anyways the fun journey now begins of trying to get this animal eating scented rodents (from which i have read is not an easy task with nerodia,but I'm always up for a new challenge)

[adamanteus]

I have had Nerodia fasciata (and sipedon) in the past, Kevin, and they switched to scented rodents no problem.

[Ameivaboy]

well there goes my new herp challenge.... guess ill have to find a new one
: ^ )

[adamanteus]

Ooops! I didn't realise it was your next challenge:eek: . Actually it was really difficult, I had to try every trick in the book!:rolleyes: Try getting them onto muesli...that would be a challenge!:D

[Snaky]

A very nice one!

I know of some who have them in the Netherlands. Yet some are hesitant to breed with them, because there is so little interest in most of the Nerodia ssp.

[adamanteus]

It is the lack of general interest that makes them interesting to me!

[Snaky]

If you take the whole lot, you might pursuade them:p

[Ameivaboy]

I must admit the lack of interest is what interests me as well along with the down right beauty of some specimens, hopefully once all my garters have their litters (and this water snake) and i sell them off i will be able to get either a pair of gorgeous red belly water snakes like this one

Kingsnake.com - Herpforum - Red-Bellied Water Snake: Big time red (http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1200269,1200269)


or a pair of nice orange phase (or even black) mangrove water snakes like so

http://www.dreamsbeginhere.org/sandalwood/herpetology/animalsmangroveForange.jpg

[Snaky]

Pfoe, those are nice one's:eek:

[ScimitarX]

I have a pair of watersnakes they are only babies as i got them at the begining of the year. 1 of them loves to eat loads and converted to eating non-scented mice no problem, the other 1 tho still eats only scented. Im a bit confusedas to what species they are of dont have any pics as yet but they are brown with darker bands along their bodies which are interconnected, they also have some white near the banding. Their underbellies are whitish with brown markings. Think they are the Florida banded but not to sure. One last question is how old do need to be to breed? I keep them together currently but will obviuosly need to separate when they are breeding age.

Any info would be appreciated as i cant find much about them.

[ssssnakeluvr]

Scott Felzer has some water snakes, albinos also!

[abcat1993]

They aren't for sale though, right?

[Thamnophis]

Beautiful snake you bought.

I have kept them for a number of years.

Nerodia fasciata, een makkelijk te verzorgen en te kweken slang. (http://people.zeelandnet.nl/sleijpenfo/reptikels/nerodiafasciata01.htm)

I stopped with this species because nobody wanted the young.
I liked this species very much. Not difficult to keep.

[Ameivaboy]

nice pictures on the link, too bad I dont understand what's written : (

[Thamnophis]

Than you have to start learning Dutch. :D

In short I wrote that they are not difficult to keep.
I had 93 healthy young in a period of two years.

I fed them with:
± 80 % was chickenheart and chickenstomach
The other 20 % was fish and all kinds of other meat.
I always added vitamins and calcium and minerals.

[drache]

They aren't for sale though, right?
I'm pretty sure he's planning on selling them

[ssssnakeluvr]

He should have babies for sale soon.

[MAFFMAFF]

Hi There I Just Joined This Forum And Was Hoping That You Might Be Able To Help Me. Im Looking For That Snake You Are Holding Nerodia Fasciata Fasciata. I Have Looked And Checked In All Exotic Pet Shops I Know And I Cant Seem To Get Hold Of One In The Uk. Please Could You Help Me.

[Lulu Bennett]

hi maffmaff. i cant help you there i'm afraid but i hope you find what you are looking for. welcome to the forum :D

[chloe]

I breed Nerodia Fasciata, last year she gave birth in feb this year she hasn't done anything yet, but i saw them mating about a month ago. So hopefully i should have some young in a few months. There are some pictures of them in my photo album.

[Odie]

Hi, from Oregon, Maffmaff :)

[Anthon]

Hello,

I have a one year old water snake, and I’m wondering what is her supspecies. I suppose it’s a N. f. fasciata x N.f. confluens, but whaddaya think?

My snake:http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7375/lajitunnistusbn3.jpg

Her father:

http://www.herppi.net/gallery/albums/userpics/12578/ramses%7E0.jpg
http://www.herppi.net/gallery/albums/userpics/12578/maija-ramses.jpg (http://http//www.herppi.net/gallery/albums/userpics/12578/maija-ramses.jpg)
http://www.herppi.net/gallery/albums/userpics/12578/kokovertailua.jpg
(it's on the left side)

Her mother:

http://www.herppi.net/gallery/albums/userpics/12578/mooses.jpg
http://www.herppi.net/gallery/albums/userpics/12578/kokovertailua.jpg
(it's on the right side)


And by the way, what do you think about keeping Thamnophis (radix) and Nerodia fasciata together in same big terrarium? I've heard couple of people doing that without any problems, and I will get my T. radix-female in September (I'm not gonna put them together immediately if ever, but probably sometime if it could work..)

[chloe]

Hi Anthon

Your water snake looks just like my neriodia fasiciata. I have got pictures of mine in my album. They do go quite dark as they get older.

Personally i would not keep garter snakes with my water snakes. As the water snakes are very strong chunky snakes and very aggressive feeders and i think they could damage the garters.

[Anthon]

...very aggressive feeders and i think they could damage the garters.

Yeah, maybe so.. But what if (of course) I would separate when feeding them?


But well, I think I don't put them together, maybe it isn't such a good idea :)

[ssssnakeluvr]

Scott Felzer (the king of garters) has some water snakes...albinos and aberrants....

[KITKAT]

Remember the lawn mower injured Nerodia sipedon that my neighbor and I were rehabilitating?

Well... two days before her 30 days were up (her release deadline), she gave birth to FIFTY offspring!

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/nerodia_clutch_090907_055.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/nerodia_clutch_090907_059.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/nerodia_clutch_090907_058.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/nerodia_clutch_090907_056.jpg

[drache]

wow! 50!
beautiful little snakes

[Elliot]

Wow! Congrats!:D

[Snaky]

That's a nice surprise!
Congrats with them, are you going to keep some? :)

[ScimitarX]

Wow, 50!!! Congrats:D

[chloe]

Congratulations, they are so cute

[Josh]

COngrats!!!!...50 wow

[Stefan-A]

Congratulations! Really good looking babies. :)