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KJPettit
06-27-2012, 04:29 AM
So my coworker was camping a few weeks ago and scooped up a couple garter snakes and brought them home for her kids. Apparently one of them popped out about 10 babies last night and she brought me a couple. (Mostly in an attempt to pacify her husband who is freaking out about how many snakes they now have.)

I don't have a pic of the parent, just the babies. I'm pretty sure that the parent was caught in New Mexico but I'm not sure what part. Looking online, I'm thinking they're T.e. vagrans but was wanting to know your thoughts? I can take additional pictures if needed!

Garters are completely new to me, all I have had up to this point is a very spoiled cornsnake. I'm sure I'll have plenty of questions in the coming weeks...

Thanks!

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Stefan-A
06-27-2012, 06:54 AM
Thamnophis elegans vagrans.

Invisible Snake
06-27-2012, 07:21 AM
I agree, they are Thamnophis elegans vagrans also known as wandering garter snakes.

ssssnakeluvr
06-27-2012, 07:26 AM
yep, wandering garters!

guidofatherof5
06-27-2012, 07:56 AM
Yep, beautiful Wandering scrubs.
I've never raised any Wandering's. Those with the experience can guide you.
Here is a link to the forum care sheet which will be a good start.
Be sure to introduce yourself in the "Welcome Lounge"
Garter Snake Forum - Garter Caresheet (http://www.thamnophis.com/index.php?page=caresheet)
Welcome Lounge (http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/welcome-lounge/)

i_heart_sneakie_snakes
06-27-2012, 11:32 AM
Awwww, simply precious!!! I love my adult Wandering. She is very sweet and friendly. She is also my biggest escaper. She was wild caught though and the others are captive bred so that may have something to do with it. Congrats on your sweet new babies :)

thamneil
06-27-2012, 01:25 PM
Beautiful vagrans! I like the really dark head they have.

Invisible Snake
06-27-2012, 01:35 PM
Hey since you said you are completely new to garters I thought that I should make you aware that wandering garters have been reported to be cannibalistic and it might be best to separate the babies from the adults and maybe even each other.

guidofatherof5
06-27-2012, 01:41 PM
Hey since you said you are completely new to garters I thought that I should make you aware that wandering garters have been reported to be cannibalistic and it might be best to separate the babies from the adults and maybe even each other.

Good point to bring up.

KJPettit
06-27-2012, 07:43 PM
Thanks for your help, everyone!

thamneil
06-27-2012, 08:06 PM
I can take additional pictures if needed!

You should put up a few more pictures :) Im actually in love with the way these guys look. Some of the coolest looking baby garters i've seen in a while.

ProXimuS
06-27-2012, 08:07 PM
Very cute little ones! Congratulations on your first garters:)

KJPettit
06-28-2012, 04:15 AM
Well, I cut up a night crawler today and they didn't seem interested, but I'm thinking I made a mistake by pulling them out to feed them and should have just left them in their tank. So I returned them and put the worm chunks on a bit of paper plate. How long should I leave it for? If I cut up some tilapia (raw, right? just checking...) how long can I leave that for?

They had 5 feeder guppies in a dish and three of the guppies are missing, so I'd say there is a high probability that someone ate today...