Tiny Eye Radix

[guidofatherof5]

This evening I went out in the backyard to collect some slugs for my Northwesterns (T.ordinoides).
Turning over a board I found this good looking female T.radix. She looked full of food and apparently poop(if you know what I mean).
Checking her over I found a perfect little radix with one concern.
I'm guessing it's a birth defect with her right eye.
Her name is Tiny Eye. Looking forward to watching her grow on the Ranch.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/forum_tiny.jpghttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/forum_norrmal.jpg

[Dan72]

That's odd, do you think she sees okay out of it Steve?

[ProXimuS]

What a pretty girl! I wonder if snakes can have micropthalmia? I know some dogs that are born with it, particuarly the ones that are born "partially albino"(i.e. dachshunds born with the white and gray markings, among other breeds).

[InsanePirateDragon]

Yeah one of my dachshunds had that condition and he was blind on that side, but some are lucky enough to have some sight. It could very well be this same condition in Tiny Eye.

[guidofatherof5]

That's odd, do you think she sees okay out of it Steve?

Not sure, giving her vision exam. tomorrow;):D

[guidofatherof5]

What a pretty girl! I wonder if snakes can have micropthalmia? I know some dogs that are born with it, particuarly the ones that are born "partially albino"(i.e. dachshunds born with the white and gray markings, among other breeds).

Not sure what's going on. I've never seen a snake with this before. Any snake.

[Light of Dae]

I can't remember who but someone else on here had a snake with one small eye n one normal eye as well... It wasn't to too long ago...

[thamneil]

That's pretty cool. You always find the most interesting things Steve! I need to make a visit to the ranch sometime soon...

[guidofatherof5]

I can't remember who but someone else on here had a snake with one small eye n one normal eye as well... It wasn't to too long ago...

I must have missed that thread or I need to up my.............. what were we talking about:D

[Invisible Snake]

Nice catch Steve I wouldn't have noticed that defect, the first pic showing the defect reminds me of kingsnakes

[katach]

With that defect in dogs being more prevalent in albinos, maybe she is het?

[guidofatherof5]

That's pretty cool. You always find the most interesting things Steve! I need to make a visit to the ranch sometime soon...

Give me a heads up and we'll roll out the red carpet and put on the feed bag.:D

[guidofatherof5]

With that defect in dogs being more prevalent in albinos, maybe she is het?

One of my dreams is to someday find an albino in my backyard.

[guidofatherof5]

*UPDATE*

After taking a few macro photos of the eye I'm not sure the snake has a tiny eye.
It looks to me like their is a normal size eye in there and that maybe the orbit is the problem.
It looks to me like something is wrong with the area around that eye. It looks sunken in to me.
I'm wondering if this snake as a baby was injured and as she grows the eye orbit is getting smaller. Just a thought.
The lower jaw not lining up wasn't an issue. It only occured in the photo.
I would like any other ideas you might have, please.
Tinyeye is a sweet little radix and I hope she will be with me for a long time.
I'll try to get a few macros of the normal side and post them for comparison.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tinyeye.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Here's those other photos. The overhead photo shows some of the problem I see.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tinyeye1.jpghttp://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tinyeye2.jpg

[Steveo]

It definitely looks like the scale above the eye is smaller than the opposite scale. Perhaps it is just a developmental problem?

[ProXimuS]

Hmm thats strange to see. Like I've said I don't know much about snakes(yet!), but just in general I would assume either congenital defect or possible old injury like you said, Steve. Just hope it doesn't seem to be hurting her:)

[d_virginiana]

That's weird looking! Doesn't look like it's been too much of a problem for her though :)

[katach]

How did her eye exam go? Can she see out of it?

[InsanePirateDragon]

Still, its an interesting weird little quirk with her. It easily could be one or the other, its hard to tell.

But still, sweet looking girl.

[guidofatherof5]

How did her eye exam go? Can she see out of it?

Sorry, forgot all about that info.
It appears she does have vision in that eye.

[guidofatherof5]

She ate her first pinky while here on the Ranch.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tiny_eye.jpg

[katach]

Fantastic news!

[guidofatherof5]

*UPDATE*

Tiny eye is doing great. Eating and hopefully shed soon. Great radix.

[ProXimuS]

Good news!! I guess you might have to keep a close eye on her little eye when she sheds...

[kimbosaur]

This kind of reminds me of when those Oranda goldfish have an overgrown wen (the "brain") that covers part or all of their eye. Probably totally different though right?

[kimbosaur]

Like this:

http://www.petgoldfish.net/file/oranda-goldfish-16.jpg

(not my pic)

[wolfpacksved]

Tiny-eye looks like a forest cobra (Naja melanoleuca)

[guidofatherof5]

Tiny Eye continues to do well. Now, she comes out for food and is much more calm when being handled.

[thamneil]

Looking back on this, she kind of reminds me of my one eyed marcianus! Tiny Eye and Winky could be best friends :) Has she grown much?

[Selkielass]

I'm. Glad she is doing well. Lovely coloring and demeanor despite the facial quirk.

[EasternGirl]

I'm just catching up to this thread. That is quite interesting...the tiny eye. I'm glad that she is in good hands and doing well. :)

[-MARWOLAETH-]

I'ts good to hear she's doing good.She has lovely colour and i hope she continues to thrive despite her little handicap.

[guidofatherof5]

She's doing so well here at the Ranch.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/tiny_eye_dirty_face.jpg

[ProXimuS]

She's got a very pretty face!:D Are you going to keep her?

[guidofatherof5]

She's got a very pretty face!:D Are you going to keep her?

Oh yeah. She's a sweetheart. She's already got the Ranch life down to a science. Comes right out to me and is very good at begging.

[ProXimuS]

That is sweet! She looks like a little sweetie:)

[ProXimuS]

How has this girl been? Just remembered her, after the Thamnophis sirtalis similis thread.

[guidofatherof5]

She is doing very well. She fed today and filled up. She's very comfortable being hand fed.
She's shed twice since being here.
Thanks for asking.

[ProXimuS]

Good to hear:) I just scanned through this thread(hadn't done that when I asked about her a minute ago), and I had forgotten about how you found out she seems to have a normal eye, just a smaller orbit. I wonder if this could be the case with the similis babies?

[-MARWOLAETH-]

It's good to hear it isn't affecting her much.I can see why you rate these snakes so highly .

[guidofatherof5]

Tiny eye is doing well. Doesn't seem to be growing much but she appears healthy, active and eating well.

[ravgez]

Its still very pretty, wonder if it hinders the snakes vision

[guidofatherof5]

Thought I better do an update on this pretty girl.
Tiny Eye is doing very well.

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//821/medium/tiny_eye21.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//821/medium/normal_tiny_eye.jpg

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//821/medium/tiny_tiny_eye.jpg

[guidofatherof5]

Luckily, Tiny Eye was up in the vines when I went looking for her. I wanted to give her a few pinkies but didn't want her salvage roommates to bother her.
She enjoyed 3 pinkies while her buddies harassed me for food. :D

http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//821/medium/pinky_tiny_eye.jpg