Dont MESS with Texas

[BUSHSNAKE]

couple Texas Thamnophis species...ocellatus from Austin

[BUSHSNAKE]

,,,and rubrilineatus:)

[mikem]

Gorgeous snakes! Love the head on the blackneck!! :cool:

[guidofatherof5]

Sweet ribbon.

[BUSHSNAKE]

atratus

[BUSHSNAKE]

male ocellatus

[Invisible Snake]

male ocellatus

Beautiful eastern blackneck, I need to get a pair.

[EasternGirl]

That ribbon is beautiful...love the third pic of the atratus. They are all sweet, Joe.

[InsanePirateDragon]

Yeah just love that last picture of the ocellatus.

[BUSHSNAKE]

Thanks, i think the pair of blacknecks will make some beautiful babies!!

[JosvdB]

,,,and rubrilineatus:)
I just love these snakes. Gorgeous!

[chris-uk]

The atratus and ocelatis alone make snakes in Texas cooler than most countries.

[BUSHSNAKE]

@JosvdB - me too!! ive only heard of captive born babies...never captive bred here in the U.S....i dont understand it, nobody has done nothing with this species

[ConcinusMan]

The atratus and ocelatis alone make snakes in Texas cooler than most countries.

Except that those atratus' aren't from Texas. They're "Santa Cruz Garter" snakes. They are San Mateo / Santa Cruz County, California natives.;)

But yeah, garter snakes are "cooler" than countries are. :p

[chris-uk]

Except that those atratus' aren't from Texas. They're "Santa Cruz Garter" snakes. They are San Mateo / Santa Cruz County, California natives.;)

But yeah, garter snakes are "cooler" than countries are. :p

I should have checked the range maps in the bible, I knew they were Santa Cruz but assumed from the post that their range extended to Texas. On reflection, that would make a huge range for such an uncommon garter.

[ConcinusMan]

Well, they don't call 'em "Santa Cruz" for nothin'. ;) But then again, I have no idea why fitchii is called "Valley" garter when I usually find them in the mountains/foothills of Nevada and WA, and I usually find "mountain" garters (T. elegans elegans) in lowlands / valleys of California and Oregon. Go figure:rolleyes:

[Didymus20X6]

I should have checked the range maps in the bible,
That's funny. The only maps in my Bible are of the ancient near east. Did St. Paul encounter any garter snakes in his travels?

[BUSHSNAKE]

lol...i knew the atratus would cunfuse somebody...i was gonna just keep adding pictures;)

[chris-uk]

lol...i knew the atratus would cunfuse somebody...i was gonna just keep adding pictures;)
Easily done, although I'm ashamed that it was me and not one of the forum's blondes. <glances towards the Eastern seaboard> :D

[EasternGirl]

I resemble that remark!!! :D And btw...I am not actually blonde anymore. Ha! I dyed my hair darker...so there. Okay...it's still kind of blonde.

Anyway...I refuse to argue that a snake is an eastern at this point until I get the bible out and look at all of the scales and do a count...I have learned my lesson.

But on the discussion of names...why is an eastern called an eastern if it is found all over the darn country?

[chris-uk]

But on the discussion of names...why is an eastern called an eastern if it is found all over the darn country?

Named before the extent of their range was known?

[ConcinusMan]

But on the discussion of names...why is an eastern called an eastern if it is found all over the darn country?

It isn't. It is found only in the eastern half of the continent/ U.S., roughly.

[EasternGirl]

Probably. They seem to be the main garter that you find on the east coast. We don't really have any other garters around here that I know of. I think the eastern garter is the only species of garter that you will find in my area...interestingly. We have other species of snake...but I do believe that is the only garter snake in this area. I am not positive about the surrounding states...but I do believe that is the case for Delaware, at least.

[ConcinusMan]

Correct.