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surfersnake
05-06-2012, 11:17 AM
I know i suck at identification but I was wondering if someone could help identify this snake. Thanks!
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guidofatherof5
05-06-2012, 11:55 AM
Can you tell us where(State) the snake is from?
Stefan-A
05-06-2012, 01:22 PM
I don't think that's a garter.
guidofatherof5
05-06-2012, 01:29 PM
Lateral is too wide.
Stefan-A
05-06-2012, 01:47 PM
Lateral is too wide.
And too many dorsal scales.
surfersnake
05-06-2012, 02:14 PM
thats what I thought, thanks
PS Steve, it is from California
guidofatherof5
05-06-2012, 02:22 PM
Duh, I should have know with a member name "surfersnake"
surfersnake
05-06-2012, 02:32 PM
:) oh well. still thanks!
guidofatherof5
05-06-2012, 02:37 PM
I'm going with a Juv. Striped Gophersnake (Pituophis melanoleucus)
surfersnake
05-06-2012, 04:34 PM
Thank you again!:):):)
guidofatherof5
05-06-2012, 04:41 PM
It's was only and edecated guess and i nevr gott mush.:D;)
ConcinusMan
05-08-2012, 05:22 PM
Too dang hard to tell. the photo sucks. Also, in case you haven't noticed, CA is a big State. can you be more specific?

Juvies can be tough to ID, and i think it is one.

It seems rather like a racer or relatative. from what i can see of the head, i don't think its a gopher snake or garter.
Natrix
05-08-2012, 06:55 PM
Would say we need a clearer pic for ID please. ;)
surfersnake
05-09-2012, 07:12 PM
sorry, I will post a better picture as soon as i can
surfersnake
05-09-2012, 07:13 PM
as for the part of California, near Carona (Riverside county)
ConcinusMan
05-09-2012, 07:21 PM
So pretty much arid/semiarid habitat. At first glance it looked like a two-striped garter but I'm not so sure. second guess is a juvi coachwhip.