Separating Two Males?

[abcat1993]

I switched my order to two males (one flame and one normal, both 66% possible het for leucistic), and I was wondering if I should keep them in separate enclosures. I've heard that keeping baby snakes together makes them less nervous, but there is also a risk of them being more nervous and not eating or eating each other. It wouldn't be a problem to house both of them separately as opposed to together, but I may as well save on the cost of the aquarium and bedding if I can.

[Lee]

I think you should be ok with 2 males in the same enclosure, I don't see why they would fight or anything...

[CrazyHedgehog]

watch them at a few feeds... if it causing one to be timid then separate, otherwise should be ok,

[adamanteus]

As CrazyHedgehog says, so long as one isn't intimidated by the other during feeding, there should be no problem keeping two males together.

[greyhawk]

I have 2 small water snake males. Sometimes one snags the other ones food while it's in his mouth which makes him upset and doesn't want to eat. So, make sure one of the snakes isn't a bully.

[drache]

I been keeping my baby males together
no problems whatsoever
I do watch them closely at feeding time

[Sid]

I house my young together in groups, but do seperate them during feedings.

Sid

[abcat1993]

I was planning to separate them during feedings so I just bought a ten gallon, a light, and some carefresh bedding (you can use that right?). Now all I need to do is figure out how I'm going to make this lid.

[Lee]

I used to use carefresh (the grey paper/cotton like stuff?) for my girl in a 20g and never had problems with it. Even if she ingested a bit of it there wasn't any problems with it. I'd use it in my new enclusure if it weren't so expensive!

[abcat1993]

Expensive? It was easily the cheapest stuff Petsmart had (but then again, it's Petsmart). It was $8 for a big bag of it, while the wood shavings were $7 for a bag about 1/4 of the size.

[Lee]

Well the cage is large so its not practical as buying a large bag of bark for 3$. It would take several bags to provide adequit cover in my cage.

[abcat1993]

Where do you get bark for 3 Dollars?

[Lee]

At the home depot, "you can do it, we can help!"

[garterking]

At the home depot, "you can do it, we can help!"

Just a word of caution. Carefull when buying like that. The stuff you buy at pet stores that is made for your viv has been treated for parasites. The Depot stuff probably has not. I have heard of people buying bark in bulk, then putting it in the microwave for 10 minutes on high to kill anything.

[drache]

i'd worry about chemical toxins too

[Gunthar130cl200]

I used to separate my male from the female because of her appetite and his total lack of fishing skill (I'm actually wondering about an eyesight problem, maybe a near-sighted snake). A big enough clear plastic box, 2 minutes with a drill for the holes, some paper towel for the substrate and you get a fit enough enclosure for your snake to spend 1-2 hours in just to catch a fish. But don't forget to clean it thoroughly each time. It's an inexpensive solution that works for me and some breeders I know.

[ssssnakeluvr]

housing garter together in general isn't a problem...they can be found in groups occasionally in the wild...i flipped a small rock and found 3 wandering garters under it! just watch to make sure they aren't fighting over food. they can fight and partially ingest the other, even causing death (i lost a quad het plains this way).