2012 pickeringii "blue"

[BUSHSNAKE]

i finally joined the baby club...baby pugets born today!! 8 good ones looks like 2.6:) and 1 stillborn and one deformed kinker:mad:...captive bred pugets...still uncommon in the U.S.A.

[ssssnakeluvr]

Awesome Joe!!!! would be nice if my girl also popped out a bunch.....

[BUSHSNAKE]

would be nice Don...let me know if you think shes gravid

[BUSHSNAKE]

this one is very very BLUE...puget babies are born with good size, some are measuring at about 8-8.5 inches

[ssssnakeluvr]

was referring to my girl at your place.... but am hoping the one I am getting is gravid also!

[katach]

Great looking scrubs, those little faces are soooo cute! Congrats!

[EasternGirl]

Beautiful little scrubs you have there, Joe! Congrats! Sorry to hear about the stillborn and the deformed one. Glad you got your babies. ;)

[mikem]

Big congrats! I love pugets! I think I say that everytime someone posts puget pics, lol! Good looking babies :D

[Selkielass]

Ohhh Hooray!

[BUSHSNAKE]

Thanks!;)

[guidofatherof5]

Sweet looking scrubs Joe.

[indigoman]

Great looking group of pugets! they sure are a pretty garters, congratulations.

[kibakiba]

They are soooo cute!

[Chondro788]

Very nice Joe!

[BUSHSNAKE]

Thanks!:)

[Mommy2many]

I just love baby time!

[Eddie]

Nice!
I am about to be over run by babies. I will keep you posted.
Ed

[BUSHSNAKE]

Nice!
I am about to be over run by babies. I will keep you posted.
Ed
cool keep me posted Ed!

[ConcinusMan]

i finally joined the baby club...baby pugets born today!! 8 good ones looks like 2.6:) and 1 stillborn and one deformed kinker:mad:...captive bred pugets...still uncommon in the U.S.A.

kewl! not sure why they are so uncommon. (CB) theyre essentially the same as concinnus'.

maybe it boils down to what we were talking about some time ago joe. some people tend to keep garters too warm, for too many months. puget sound gets close to 300 days a year of rain and/or too cold for them to even be active at all. maybe this subspecies just won't reproduce well with all that "pampering" and dang near "forever summer" they get in captivity.

on a side note i noticed that scott doesnt have them on the available or expected list this year:confused:

[BUSHSNAKE]

yeh...its a combination of reasons...at one point they were everywhere and people thought it was always goona be like that, they were wrong! Alot of peolpe were trying to breed them with very little success and those people gave up...thats when i took notice and took them on, ive liked the challenge and ive succeeded, im a happy guy...."forever summer"...you crack me up Richard

[mikem]

on a side note i noticed that scott doesnt have them on the available or expected list this year:confused:

They're listed under the Florida blues and above the central american garters.

[Dan72]

Great looking little ones. My wish list of new recruits keeps growing and something with some striking blue coloring to it has been on my mind the more pics I see. These gorgeous snakes could be the one. I love the contrast of the blue with the black. When it comes to the price range on these are they similar to the flames in that the more high end (bright) blue means more expense? Congrats again, they are awesome.

[BUSHSNAKE]

Thanks!!

[ConcinusMan]

They're listed under the Florida blues and above the central american garters.

yeah, now they are. list was updated may 2nd. i last checked it a few days prior. ;)

[Steveo]

G When it comes to the price range on these are they similar to the flames in that the more high end (bright) blue means more expense?

I know Mr. Felzer gets a higher price for the ones that are blue at birth, but I don't know how that relates to their adult coloration or if blue-at-birth is a trait that can be isolated.

[ConcinusMan]

He seems to get a higher price for everything, like Nike gets $100 or more for a lousy tennis shoe, but yeah, ones showing blue at birth cost more. understandable. those are the ones in demand. remember, most pugets aren't blue at all. They range from B&W, pale green. B& yellow, etc. The intense blue ones are found only at the exreme south end of their range. Olympia, Ft. Lewis, Dupont area but even there, not all of them are blue. Not even within the same litter.


I know Mr. Felzer gets a higher price for the ones that are blue at birth, but I don't know how that relates to their adult coloration or if blue-at-birth is a trait that can be isolated.

its a polygenic trait with varying degrees of expression. i don't think it can be isolated 100% but you can certainly increase the odds.

[BUSHSNAKE]

I know Mr. Felzer gets a higher price for the ones that are blue at birth, but I don't know how that relates to their adult coloration or if blue-at-birth is a trait that can be isolated.
the majority of them look just like there parents when they are born, there is little variation...most are blue when born...i should know

[ConcinusMan]

check this out. literally right down the road from me. I could practically walk there Puget Sound Garter Snake (Thamnophis sirtalis pickeringi) DSC_0058 | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ndomer73/1317752498/)

[BUSHSNAKE]

nice one!