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[stevenrudge]

Hello every one
l'm Steven and l started out herp'ing in the mid 70's,l started with English Grass snakes and Garter snakes as most people did in those days.Garter snakes in those days where very much classed as a starter snake for people new to the hobby,only to be dropped when experience was gained,and the rights of passage was then North American Rats snakes to pythons and Boas,and then much later on with all the morphs.
But for me there was always something about garters that kept my interest so l've always had some form of Thamnophis around.and its nice to see both in England and America that the interest in garters is increasing in the hobby.
It was not always the case especially in America,in the early 80's l worked for what was then the biggest reptile importer and breeder company in Europe,they use to import garters by the 1000's at a time,they then would have all been W/C adult stock.l cannot begin to describe how many species and spp you would find in one batch!how many gravid females and the odd morph.It was clear that back in America that there could not have been much interest at the time or that they where so abundant that they let so many species and spp go for next to nothing,
Any great to be on this forum and hope to have more contact with fellow Thamnophis fans
Regards
Steven

[Didymus20X6]

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[guidofatherof5]

I would be amiss if I didn't give you a link to our forum care sheet.
Garter Snake Forum - Garter Caresheet (http://www.thamnophis.com/index.php?page=caresheet)

I for one and I'm sure many members would like to hear more about your early garter snake encounters with that import company.


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[gregmonsta]

Greetings :D

[EasternGirl]

Welcome to the forum! It's nice to have you here. I look forward to getting to know you. :)

[chris-uk]

Welcome to thamnophis.com Steven, with your experience I'm sure there's plenty you'll be contributing here.
It's also a lot less depressing than RFUK, where garters are a minority.

[Natrix]

Welcome to thamnophis.com Steven, with your experience I'm sure there's plenty you'll be contributing here.
It's also a lot less depressing than RFUK, where garters are a minority. Seconded! Welcome good to have you on board. ;)

[Stefan-A]

Welcome aboard.

[Thamnophis]

Welcome here, Steven...

[katach]

Welcome to the forum family!

[stevenrudge]

Welcome to thamnophis.com Steven, with your experience I'm sure there's plenty you'll be contributing here.
It's also a lot less depressing than RFUK, where garters are a minority.Hi Chris Yeah rfuk is starting to be waste of time,far to many numptys who no nothing,next to no experience,coming it large.its nice to see so many Americans its going to be great to have their take on Thamnophis
keep in touch

[gregmonsta]

I remember feeling that I was the 'garter police' a few years back as I was running around giving advice where I could :o, it's been nice to see more Thamnosiasts speaking up. It can be a frustrating place.

[stevenrudge]

I remember feeling that I was the 'garter police' a few years back as I was running around giving advice where I could :o, it's been nice to see more Thamnosiasts speaking up. It can be a frustrating place.Hello Sir Gregmonsta,you would have seen some of the feeding arguments l've been having on some of the other forums,you would not believe how many private P/M's l get from people who are to scared to go against the pack on the forums and ask for advice, its a shame that they feel that way,most of the people on rfuk have not got a clue anyway
good to see you around

[chris-uk]

Thamnosiasts .
I like the new word you've invented there. :)

[EasternGirl]

Hello Sir Gregmonsta,you would have seen some of the feeding arguments l've been having on some of the other forums,you would not believe how many private P/M's l get from people who are to scared to go against the pack on the forums and ask for advice, its a shame that they feel that way,most of the people on rfuk have not got a clue anyway
good to see you around Just tell them to come on over to us...we will be glad to have them on our forum!

[stevenrudge]

Just tell them to come on over to us...we will be glad to have them on our forum!Hello EastenGirl nice to meet you!but alass you did not no what your saying,l'm taking real head bangers hear,they are the type who have kept a reptile alive for about a month,go on google,wiki,then enter the forums as all knowing reptile experts,give us all advice from above!real clowns,do you have people like this state side?or is it just us Brits(and Greg)who suffer this?

[EasternGirl]

Ha ha...oh we have them...unfortunately. Yeah...don't send them here! Don't those types generally prefer big snakes...like boas and pythons...so they can feel like big tough men? Lol...

[stevenrudge]

Ha ha...oh we have them...unfortunately. Yeah...don't send them here! Don't those types generally prefer big snakes...like boas and pythons...so they can feel like big tough men? Lol...you are so right as a joke l did a post about them called Big snakes -small .... and they fell for it before the Mod locked it down

[gregmonsta]

You would not believe how many private P/M's l get from people who are to scared to go against the pack on the forums and ask for advice, its a shame that they feel that way,most of the people on rfuk have not got a clue anyway


:rolleyes: Over the years I've dealt with countless requests and it's just like you say. I joined RFUK even before I joined this forum and, at the time, it felt like I was the only one with an active interest there.
From the shops to the 'average' keeper there is not much you can do ... doesn't stop me trying though, as we all know lol. I seem to have somewhat of a reputation with the shops thesedays :eek:.
Certain stereotypes and myths on garter keeping prevail along with the usual mob attitude.
Anyhows, nice to see you on here ;)

[Light of Dae]

Welcome to the best-est, friendliest, awesomeness filled forum around! We have no such thing as ...

Big snakes -small ....

As we are happy with our perfect sized snakes and perfect sized......

....

..

tanks.... :D


Don't mind me, my a$$ just has a graduates degree.

[kibakiba]

Does that mean those who keep smalls snakes have big... Tanks,...? Haha. I mean, I have pretty tiny snakies, but they have normal tanks... :D

[stevenrudge]

Ok lets be clear on this so we all know where we stand l keep tiny snakes but have a massive ---------Car
What did you thank l was going to say?

[kibakiba]

I thought you were gunna say pony... Where does the pony come into play?..... There is a pony.. Right?

[Light of Dae]

Lol I got small snakes and a Massive ....... horse... I can't call her a pony... although I almost got her a miniature pony for free, so they could be buddies and it would have been hilarious the size difference in them!

However the guy didn't want to split up the three ponies, I just wanted one.... It was full grown at 2'8 so tiny!

[stevenrudge]

I thought you were gunna say pony... Where does the pony come into play?..... There is a pony.. Right?hang on a mint,a PONY?l nearly fell of my chair readying this,either we are getting a bit of trance-Atlantic mix up with English or you Americans are more fun than l thought! l think the forum is going to more fun than l was expecting.
Soz Chris ,Greg,John l know l promise't not to bring the tone down
l failed

[chris-uk]

Some of the Americans on here are really quite random Steve. You get used to it.
I remember reading that thread on RFUK and being surprised how easy the burm and anaconda blokes were to bait out.

[EasternGirl]

I am completely lost. I thought we were talking about male genitalia. Unless we are talking about some kind of weird stuff with ponies now...I think Dae is actually talking about her horse. I do think that men who feel the need to buy really big snakes probably have very little ponies. Rofl....and if the opposite applies then I guess this is the best forum for the women to be on...ha ha ha...

[Natrix]

I have come to the conclusion that certain lasses on this site are completely MAD! :D

[guidofatherof5]

I have come to the conclusion that certain lasses on this site are completely MAD! :D

Agreed. That's why we love them. :D

[kibakiba]

I am crazy, that's why I'm in therapy! I've been deemed "sane" enough to 'graduate' from my therapy though :)
But, my sense of humour is twisted and funky and my brain doesn't work.... Like, if you say "co-dom" for co-dominate with genes.. my brain thinks "condom genes". Lol.

[Didymus20X6]

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And before anyone asks, no, I am not a "Brony".

[stevenrudge]

I am completely lost. I thought we were talking about male genitalia. Unless we are talking about some kind of weird stuff with ponies now...I think Dae is actually talking about her horse. I do think that men who feel the need to buy really big snakes probably have very little ponies. Rofl....and if the opposite applies then I guess this is the best forum for the women to be on...ha ha ha...Thank God for that,l'm glade we cleared that up EasternGirl for a horrible moment l thought we where talking about something crude and smutty like ----ponys