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kueluck
03-29-2012, 05:41 AM
Still patiently (some times not so patiently) waiting for a eastern to cross my path one way or another, but in the mean time I've been gathering items for the viv. It has 2 hides, water dish, natural woods (cleaned & safe ) and a slab of slate to put the worms & some day pinkies on so as not to ingest aspen. I'm also watching to see how the temps are in this viv and so far night time is 65-70 and day time is 75-80 without a heat source, humidity 50%. So now for the experts input, what do I need to add or take away from this. It's a 29 gal long and I plan on tending to one male.

guidofatherof5
03-29-2012, 05:49 AM
Looks good.

A heat source would be nice to allow for the best thermoregulating.
If you plan on feeding in the enclosure your choice of substrate could be a problem.
Ingesting it could cause a blockage.

gregmonsta
03-29-2012, 05:53 AM
What Steve said ;) - you might find that food items will get dragged off that piece of slate more often than not. Small sharp aspen shavings can cause havoc in small bodied snakes.

kueluck
03-29-2012, 06:00 AM
What would be considered to warm? The plan is to use a 25 watt bulb for heat on the left side of tank since the hide is also flat on top I figure this would be good for basking on. I use this for my frogs and toads and it can bring the temps up to high 80's. FEEDING: I was going to feed with tongs as I do w/amphibians, or is it better to feed in separate container? SUBSTRATE: Would terrarium liners be better to use? Eco Earth? WARNING: I'll have a ton of questions on this since there are sooo many sites with “experts” on the web I figured the hands on people here will be the most helpful.

Looks good.

A heat source would be nice to allow for the best thermoregulating.
If you plan on feeding in the enclosure your choice of substrate could be a problem.
Ingesting it could cause a blockage.

EasternGirl
03-29-2012, 06:24 AM
Well, if you are going to put the lamp on the left side that is fine...but then I would move the water dish over to the right a little bit more so that it is further away from the heat. I keep my temps on the warm side around 82-84 degrees during the day for my easterns and around 68-70 at night. This can be achieved with a bulb or a heat mat...depending on what you prefer, although I do find that garters do enjoy basking...so I have a UTH (an under the tank heat mat) and a lamp and I adjust accordingly...I also use a regular 40 watt light bulb during the day and a 40 watt red bulb at night and I actually use a thermostat set to turn the heat off if it goes over 85 degrees. Sometimes I do not use any light at night....just the mat. I also have a flourescent UVB strip light set on a timer. It sounds like with the temps that you have now...a 25 watt might be good enough for you though. As long as you have a thermometer to watch the temps...I would go with that for now. I also suggest getting a thermostat. The humidity sounds good. As far as the substrate goes, I use aspen, but I move my snakes into another tank with paper towels for feeding. Cee Cee is looking pretty big...chances are she is gravid...may have some eastern babies soon. I wanted to ask you...have you considered contacting a breeder to see about purchasing a captive bred eastern?

kueluck
03-29-2012, 07:58 AM
I have a thermostat on each side and hydrometer in the middle. I'm going to the reptile show in May and if there are no c/b there I'm going to contact Scott Felzer in Raleigh. I really don't want to ship if I can help it. I just can't imagine the stress it puts on the animal. As for lighting I also have a UVB light now and will add a 25watt for heat to see how warm it gets
Well, if you are going to put the lamp on the left side that is fine...but then I would move the water dish over to the right a little bit more so that it is further away from the heat. I keep my temps on the warm side around 82-84 degrees during the day for my easterns and around 68-70 at night. This can be achieved with a bulb or a heat mat...depending on what you prefer, although I do find that garters do enjoy basking...so I have a UTH (an under the tank heat mat) and a lamp and I adjust accordingly...I also use a regular 40 watt light bulb during the day and a 40 watt red bulb at night and I actually use a thermostat set to turn the heat off if it goes over 85 degrees. Sometimes I do not use any light at night....just the mat. I also have a flourescent UVB strip light set on a timer. It sounds like with the temps that you have now...a 25 watt might be good enough for you though. As long as you have a thermometer to watch the temps...I would go with that for now. I also suggest getting a thermostat. The humidity sounds good. As far as the substrate goes, I use aspen, but I move my snakes into another tank with paper towels for feeding. Cee Cee is looking pretty big...chances are she is gravid...may have some eastern babies soon. I wanted to ask you...have you considered contacting a breeder to see about purchasing a captive bred eastern?