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Natrix
03-24-2012, 12:46 PM
Nice and warm, So I Went out for a look around about 3pm (UK) and found these little beauties soaking up the Rays in the late afternoon. 44774478 :D

EasternGirl
03-24-2012, 12:53 PM
Oh...nice! What kind of snakes are they?

Natrix
03-24-2012, 12:59 PM
European Adders, They are the only venomous snake in the UK. The first pick is I think an adult male and the second is a neonate (Poss Female due to the brown colouration?) around 4" long. Also found a slow-worm a kind of legless Lizard. ;)

ScimitarX
03-24-2012, 01:04 PM
Lovely :)

guidofatherof5
03-24-2012, 01:09 PM
Nice. Thanks for posting.

mikem
03-24-2012, 01:27 PM
beautiful snakes! good find :cool: i gotta get out herpin' soon.

Natrix
03-24-2012, 01:49 PM
Here's a pic of the slow-worm44794480

mikem
03-24-2012, 01:55 PM
nice! i see legless lizards at herp shows from time to time. they're such odd little things.

Natrix
03-24-2012, 02:03 PM
They are quite common here, people just don't know where to look or what to look for? I went out this afternoon just for an hour and a half and found these all on south facing banks. If it is nice again tomorrow will be out again to see if I can find a Grass Snake. I will more than likely find more Adders. :D

EasternGirl
03-24-2012, 02:27 PM
Oh that is so cool. Yes, I have read about adders...very cool snakes. Very lovely too. The slow-worm is so neat...cute little thing.

Natrix
03-24-2012, 02:50 PM
The first pick is I think an adult male?????? I've just found out it's Female :o "Females range from browns and yellows to brick red. Females are larger than Males. Males typically have a grey, creamy white or steely grey background colour." SORRY! My mistake. I knew it was somthing to do with the colour!! :o:o

chris-uk
03-24-2012, 03:26 PM
Nice finds.

So, you picked up the slow worm for photos but not the adders? ;)

Natrix
03-24-2012, 03:33 PM
Nice finds.

So, you picked up the slow worm for photos but not the adders? ;)
I not that stupid! ;) I suppose they are handleable but I didn't want to risk it, being on my own and all. Would you?

chris-uk
03-24-2012, 05:44 PM
I not that stupid! ;) I suppose they are handleable but I didn't want to risk it, being on my own and all. Would you?
Of course, I'd do my best Irwin impression. :)
No, I think it's best to get a few good photos and let them go about their business. The times I've seen them I've been in the middle of the moors where a bite would mean a walk to the nearest road and then an hour to the nearest hospital. It's not going to be fatal, but could get uncomfortable.

EasternGirl
03-24-2012, 06:14 PM
Joe would...but no, I wouldn't do it. Not unless I was trained in handling hots. It is just plain risky to pick up a venomous snake unless you are experienced in handling them. I sure would be tempted though! :D

Stefan-A
03-25-2012, 02:24 AM
The first pick is I think an adult male?????? I've just found out it's Female :o "Females range from browns and yellows to brick red. Females are larger than Males. Males typically have a grey, creamy white or steely grey background colour." SORRY! My mistake. I knew it was somthing to do with the colour!! :o:o

Male or female? ;)

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Natrix
03-25-2012, 03:16 AM
Good Morning Stefan, just watched the videos. Can I take it that this was a Finnish Adder? If things work the same as it does with Raptors, then generally speaking, the further north you go the larger and darker the specimens become. If this was a UK Adder then, just going off the colour I would say that it is Male, But it's size and bulk says, Female? You are much further north than we are and I know nothing about the colour variations that you have in Finland. Although the animal in the video appears to be dark Grey/Black and in the UK would suggest that it is Male as (males in the UK usually have a pale Grey/dark Grey background), This animals realatively bulky size is suggesting that it is Female. The first video goes to show just how successful these animals are. As far as I am aware no other reptile can tollorate such low temps that you get up there, The fact that there is snow on the ground is testement to that.. I am by no means an expert, Just an amature naturalist with an interest in Herpetology. I am sure that you will correct if I am wrong.;)

Natrix
03-25-2012, 03:51 AM
Just found the Nature Photography thread again, I had forgotten about it, Maybe I should have posted these pics in there? :o

Eight
03-30-2012, 04:10 AM
Nice adder pics, I love finding them. We have some down here in the new forest but its like looking for rocking horse poo. It always surprises me how small they are, but then again i've never come across a female :(

Thanks for sharing though :)