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Starling96
03-19-2012, 10:23 AM
I finnally found a garter! Ive got him in a ten gallon with some fake plants, a paper towel tube, half a coconut and his water dish. He's just about 6 or 7 inches long. Im not sure what type but he was found in Tulsa, Oklahoma. hes defintely not a ribbon, ive found plenty of those! :) Thanks guys!

mikem
03-19-2012, 10:30 AM
cool :cool: share some pics!

Starling96
03-19-2012, 10:32 AM
Ill try ;) Ive always had a hard time!

EasternGirl
03-19-2012, 12:24 PM
Yes...we like pics!

Didymus20X6
03-19-2012, 01:27 PM
half a coconut

Did you get it from an African or European swallow?

Starling96
03-19-2012, 02:10 PM
Did you get it from an African or European swallow?

I don't get it... Lol
How long should I leave him alone for? He's eaten a few worms already!

kueluck
03-19-2012, 04:02 PM
Must not be a follower of Monty Python..........but then this is a garter, not python site. :D

EasternGirl
03-19-2012, 09:08 PM
What do you mean by leave him alone? You don't want to handle him right after he has eaten. If you mean handling him in general, it depends on the snake...if he is really skiddish...you may want to try putting your hands in the enclosure and letting him get used to your hands being near him a bit without touching him...see if he comes to you to check you out. Let him crawl across your hands and so forth. See if he will let you pet him without picking him up. If he will let you pick him up, go ahead and try to handle him a little bit each day, as long as he doesn't seem too upset by it. But if he has just eaten, wait until the next day before trying to handle him.

Selkielass
03-20-2012, 11:30 AM
Congratulations!
Its a good idea to give them a day or so to digest their food before handling them- they may throw up their last meal if they get too excited.
I've found that handling them for a little while, nearly every day is a good way to get them accustomed to handling. Mine now want to be fed every time they are handled!

Starling96
03-21-2012, 11:43 AM
I wont be handling for a while but i covered his tank with a blaket so hed have some privacy. How long should it be like that for?

mikem
03-21-2012, 01:50 PM
if he's eating i'd go ahead and take it off. :cool:

EasternGirl
03-21-2012, 02:21 PM
I take it your covering with a towel so that he can eat comfortably? Yes, then...like Mike said...once he is finished eating, take the towel off. Not all snakes need to have the tank covered like that to eat mind you. Most of my snakes eat fine without covering the tank...I only have one shy eater that needs the tank covered to eat.

Starling96
03-21-2012, 08:01 PM
Alright thanks guys :)
Any tips on getting him to eat pinkies or silversides?

Starling96
03-21-2012, 08:41 PM
I wanted to share something on Photobucket with you!

See the fullsize version at: http://s1070.photobucket.com/albums/u486/jaxon1298/?action=view¤t=0bb6831c.=user_media_share

Starling96
03-21-2012, 08:42 PM
I wanted to share something on Photobucket with you!

See the fullsize versions at: http://s1070.photobucket.com/albums/u486/jaxon1298/?action=view¤t=2b694d50.jpg&evt=user_media_share

Starling96
03-21-2012, 09:04 PM
Any idea on what type of garter he is?

Starling96
03-21-2012, 09:47 PM
http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u486/jaxon1298/0bb6831c.jpg

Starling96
03-21-2012, 09:49 PM
http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u486/jaxon1298/2b694d50.jpg

His home

EasternGirl
03-22-2012, 07:45 AM
Looks like an eastern to me...T.s.sirtalis. Looks just like my Seeley. Do they have easterns in Oklahoma? Anyway...make sure they are a safe type of silverside. I'm not sure which are the safe ones...other members can advise you on that. What is he eating now? If he is eating worms and fish and you want him to eat pinkies...take a frozen pinky and cut it into pieces and mix with worms or fish and thaw...or cut in half or quarters (depending on the size of your snake) and then let the pinky thaw and then rub a worm or fish on the pinky to scent the pinky.

guidofatherof5
03-22-2012, 08:00 AM
Eastern(Thamnophis sirtalis sirtalis) and Plains (Thamnophis radix) are common to Oklahoma.
Without a better photo I can't say for sure but I'm leaning toward T.radix (Plains Garter Snake)

http://www.oksnakes.org/index.cfm?id=6&all=0

Stefan-A
03-22-2012, 08:05 AM
I'm seeing T. sirtalis. Got any better pictures?

Starling96
03-22-2012, 09:29 AM
I'll take a few today.
He doesn't really seem to like me... Yet :) and I tried mixing chopped pinkies with worms and he ate all worms no pinkies lol and I haven't tried fish yet though

guidofatherof5
03-22-2012, 09:30 AM
Great, then we can have a look at that radix :D

Starling96
03-22-2012, 09:40 AM
Great, then we can have a look at that radix :D
Hopefully ;)

Starling96
03-22-2012, 10:01 AM
http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u486/jaxon1298/6e67010c.jpg

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u486/jaxon1298/339922cc.jpg

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u486/jaxon1298/9589b70c.jpg

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u486/jaxon1298/eb479667.jpg

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u486/jaxon1298/95acc82c.jpg

Sorry for the bad quality

EasternGirl
03-22-2012, 10:26 AM
Yeah...sorry, I think we are going to need clearer pics if we are going to try to tell you the species.

Starling96
03-22-2012, 10:46 AM
DarnI'll use my moms iPhone 4 when she gets home.

Starling96
03-22-2012, 12:44 PM
Im leaning towards eastern

http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u486/jaxon1298/843c76e4.jpg

guidofatherof5
03-22-2012, 01:24 PM
Just like I said. Eastern :D

Starling96
03-22-2012, 01:34 PM
Thanks guys! :)
How do i tell if hes a male or female? Males have. Long tapered tales right?

guidofatherof5
03-22-2012, 01:44 PM
http://www.thamnophis.com/forum/breeding/5069-sexing-pics.html

EasternGirl
03-22-2012, 06:01 PM
If you can get a pic up of the underside so we can see the vent like in the sexing pics, we can tell you. Eastern! I got it. ;)

Starling96
03-27-2012, 07:50 PM
Hes already about to shed!
Ill post pics tomorrow!

Starling96
03-31-2012, 03:50 PM
http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/u486/jaxon1298/fe660926.jpg

EasternGirl
03-31-2012, 05:00 PM
He's a pretty eastern.

Starling96
03-31-2012, 09:40 PM
Thanks :) right after he shed he kind of reminde me of a radix

EasternGirl
03-31-2012, 10:27 PM
I always think that radixes and easterns look a lot alike too! He looks a lot like my Seeley, my male eastern...same coloring. My female eastern, Cee Cee, is a lighter color.

Seeley:

4531

Starling96
04-01-2012, 01:59 PM
Shes a pretty girl! In ready for squirt to size up!

EasternGirl
04-01-2012, 02:03 PM
That is actually my male. Cee Cee is my female...she's the lighter one...and much bigger....

4532 In fact, I think she is gravid right now.

Starling96
04-01-2012, 02:09 PM
Shes a pretty girl! In ready for squirt to size up!