Our forum is in the spotlight..

[infernalis]

Just thought you all may be interested in knowing this.. The reptile report is bringing in a lot of views.
Every day they look in on us and report the most interesting threads with links on an ever growing list of herp related web sites. Backed by major industry sponsors.


Mystery Birth | The Reptile Report (http://thereptilereport.com/mystery-birth/)

Slugs? | The Reptile Report (http://thereptilereport.com/slugs/)

Spider vs Garter | The Reptile Report (http://thereptilereport.com/spider-vs-garter/)

Thamnophis & Natrix | The Reptile Report (http://thereptilereport.com/thamnophis-natrix/)

Garter Snake Kids’ Book | The Reptile Report (http://thereptilereport.com/garter-snake-kids-book/)

Lighting for Albinos | The Reptile Report (http://thereptilereport.com/lighting-for-albinos/)

Red Sided Garter Den | The Reptile Report (http://thereptilereport.com/red-sided-garter-den/)

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[guidofatherof5]

Glad people are enjoying what they see/read.

[BUSHSNAKE]

ive seen this...should be called Forum Report...

[mikem]

more people reading and becoming interested in garters is a good thing :)

[EasternGirl]

That is really awesome. Glad to see people reading about garters. Good job members.

[chris-uk]

Good good. More people reading must be a good thing.

[RicMartin]

It's a great thing. This forum is having a big impact everywhere.

[katach]

I get the daily report on my facebook page!! I love looking at it and seeing our little family there.

[Mommy2many]

Awesome news! Keep it going!

[ConcinusMan]

Yeah, I noticed this. Now they're pointing out the pinky poll and the current discussion about the "strange noises" coming from the garter with the RI. Colubrids | The Reptile Report (http://thereptilereport.com/category/colubrids/)

[EasternGirl]

I like the one about "Slugs"...unfertilised eggs or a strange poo? Lol... I have it bookmarked now.

[EasternGirl]

Now they have a little thing about Steve's new babies: Colubrids | The Reptile Report (http://thereptilereport.com/category/colubrids/)

[infernalis]

Thank you all for the support, Robyn said he got 30+ hits as a result of this thread.

[Mrs N1ntndo]

This site is awesome. I came here only wanting to know one thing at first and then the addition set in. Lol the people here are the best ever. Its not just a forum its a huge family. Its about time that someone sees this awesome forum cause then maybe people would understand more about garters and wouldnt hurt them and just sit back and enjoy the goodness they have and the amazment that they show us. You guys are awesome and if it wasnt for you all then I wouldve known what to do with Pheobe and her delivery and I wouldnt have the 3 beautiful growing eastern babies that are here with me now. Keep up all the great great work guys. Thank you again.

[EasternGirl]

Here is a good thread...it has some really nice pics. I don't think the second garter is ID'd properly though...I don't think that is an eastern, they usually don't have orange dorsal stripes. Is it a radix?

Field Herp Forum • View topic - A little bit of early season Arklahoma color. (http://www.fieldherpforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10772)

[BUSHSNAKE]

i saw that, dont even have to look at the link...it is sirtalis, probably annectens...sirtalis doesnt always mean Eastern

[guidofatherof5]

T.radix doesn't range in Arkansas and only in the panhandle of Oklahoma according to Rossman, Ford and Seigel, The Garter Snake-Evolution and Ecology
Those specimens were found in 3 different counties along Arkansas's western border.
http://www.thamnophis.com/thamphotos/data//500/medium/ark_map.jpg

[BUSHSNAKE]

then they are easterns then right?

[EasternGirl]

Joe...they said T. sirtalis sirtalis.

[BUSHSNAKE]

yes, without local info i would say those are texas garters...subspecies...i wonder some times

[EasternGirl]

The first one looks like a T.s.sirtalis but the second one does not...that's why I asked. I've never seen an eastern with a dorsal stripe like that second one. I remember that radixes have those pretty orange dorsal stripes and they often look very similar to my easterns...so I was thinking maybe it was a radix...but Steve says they aren't in that area. Texas garters huh? Are those the T.eques megalops? Looks like those. I saw a pic of the annectens...saw the orange dorsal stripe...they do look like it could be those too. I just thought it was interesting that they said sirtalis sirtalis...people are always misidentifying easterns. Not sure how you can put up one pic of an eastern and then put up another pic of a snake that doesn't look anything like it and say that it is also an eastern (I'm speaking of sirtalis sirtalis subspecies not sirtalis when I refer to an eastern).

[ConcinusMan]

yes, without local info i would say those are texas garters...subspecies...i wonder some times

Yeah, I thought so too. Sure gave me the impression that they were Texas garters. Doesn't mean there aren't easterns somewhere that look just like 'em.:rolleyes:


Not sure how you can put up one pic of an eastern and then put up another pic of a snake that doesn't look anything like it and say that it is also an eastern (I'm speaking of sirtalis sirtalis subspecies not sirtalis when I refer to an eastern).

Polymorphism, that's how. Easterns are almost as variable as T. ordinoides. You're probably just used to them all looking the same in your local area. They can look completely different 100 miles away. And besides, those two snakes pictured aren't all that different. They appear to be the same species/subspecies to me, although they are obviously not identical to one another.

Anyway, I did a little quick research. Eastern garters in Arkansas have yellow or orange stripes, just like the ones shown. Background color can be patterned (in that characteristic "checkered" pattern that easterns have sometimes) or solid and in any case is usually jet black or very dark brown. So there you go. Those two pictured are typical for eastern garters found in that state.

Herps of Arkansas: Snakes (http://herpsofarkansas.com/Snake/HomePage)

[EasternGirl]

Good to know, Richard, thanks. I am learning more and more how different eastern garters can look in different locals. Your info is helpful as I am trying to gather as much info and pics as I can to put together a website dedicated to T.s.sirtalis in the future. I am going to bookmark that site...I may try to contact the website admin. to see if I can get permission to use the info about the eastern garters in Arkansas and the pics in my website.

[ConcinusMan]

I want to get pics of concinnus' and pickeringii with locality info to create a better picture of what they look like in different areas of their ranges. Something similar to what you're saying. If I could only find the time.:cool:

[EasternGirl]

Check this out: Random Garters | The Reptile Report (http://thereptilereport.com/random-garters/)